Motorcycle specifications BMWR 1200 GS 2013 The start of another road

gelände Straße. Two words little known to the general public, not necessarily better known in the motorcycle world, but whose initials initiated a new genre, almost a new world: GS. With the creation of the R 80 G/S, BMW gave the trail bike its letters of nobility. A machine capable of taking you from the periphery to the plains of the Serengeti. This philosophy still applies today.
As history leads species to perpetual evolution, the R 1200 GS in 2013 closes a colossal chapter in Behemoth history, to open that of a new engine generation. This bike, the brand's best-seller, ushers in the revolution that everyone has been waiting for and/or dreading for decades: the flat-twin goes liquid-cooled!!!!
the Bavarian Boxer of the 21st century.
a shock! Total, complete, almost unimaginable. The Boxer is attached to BMW history as an emblem, a vocation, a serial engine. With the distinctive feature (among others) of being air-cooled, even in the 21st century. Why be so stubborn? Ducati did return its liquid twins 25 years ago... Because this is an icon! Changing the type of cooling is not a technical challenge, but a psychological mutation. So we had to do things right, with elegance and efficiency.
BM purists should pick up a Tranxen 200 right away. In the bowels of the Boxer, almost everything has changed. But the engineers' tour de force is to have preserved a look very similar to the previous generation. A quick glance would lead us to believe that only the intake and exhaust are different. And the little fins are still there. That's right, because they're still part of the cooling system. The new flat combines both technologies to evacuate heat. The role of the liquid circuit is to calm the fever where it heats up most, on the cylinder head side and in certain parts of the cylinders. The radiators are cleverly tucked away to preserve the typical look of the flat. A fine job, punctuated by an extra 2.7 kilos of weight. In any case, it had to be done to comply with noise and pollution standards.
A second shock to whet the appetite? Send in the sprockets. Another special feature of the Boxer is its separate gearbox. Few manufacturers keep this type of construction. On the vast majority of motorcycles, engine and gearbox are a single unit.
This is no longer the case for the German Flat. The 6-speed gearbox and clutch are now integrated into the engine casing. This eliminates the need for separate lubrication, saves weight and space, and the engineers have taken the opportunity to redesign the gear ratios.
Oh, I forgot, the clutch is no longer dry. It's now a set of 8 oil-immersed discs, with an anti-dribble system. The old dry single-plate clutch had an external diameter of 180 mm; the new one is 147 mm. Another space-saving feature.
Despite all this technical upheaval, internal dimensions remain unchanged. As with the previous 1200, total cubic capacity is 1170 cm3. Bore and stroke are exactly the same, with a ratio of 101 x 73 mm. Should we expect the same performance?
Certainly not, as the list of engine evolutions is far from complete. Let's keep it simple: volumetric ratio increased from 12:1 to 12.5 : 1, a 1 mm increase in valve diameter (40 intake and 34 exhaust), a lighter, more compact and more rigid crankshaft, 52 mm fuel injection (previously 50), new camshafts, vertical intake gas flow, new engine management electronics, new exhaust system with motorized flap (for noise). That's the gist of the 50-page press kit, without going into too much detail.
This major technical overhaul is paying off. The flat twin is now much more lively. 125 hp now, peaking at 7,700 rpm. That's 15 more than the previous GS, at almost identical rpm. A small gain in torque too: 1.5 kg. The liquid 1200 develops 12.7 mkg at 6,500 rpm, while the air-cooled 1200 offered 12.2 mkg at 6,000 rpm.
a totally redesigned GS.
equipped with an all-new engine, the R 1200 GS had to offer an assertive visual presence. The identity remains, the styling is more incisive, the angles are sharper, and there's a clear break with the old model. The beak is still there, but it has grown fangs. Above it, a magnesium support underlines the enduro look and supports the spout, instrument cluster, headlamp and bubble adjustment mechanism. The side scoops push forward; these "claws" are mainly used to hide the new liquid-cooling radiators. Less spectacular, the rear end still exudes an impression of robustness.
Being comfortable on a GS is also one of this machine's great assets. It's a big bike, but it manages superbly in many areas, ergonomics being one of its favourites. Here, the tank is more compact, the handlebars more solid and can swivel through 10°, the rider's seat can be adjusted in inclination and in two heights (850 or 870 mm), and the passenger's can be adjusted longitudinally. After that, the range of accessories lets you fine-tune all this.
On the road, the 1200 GS now faces a plethora of competitors. Its throne is under attack, and although the stronghold has not yet fallen, BMW's best-seller is acquiring as many assets as possible to take it to the next level of quality in the segment. With chassis upgrades and a host of electronic reinforcements, the bike is a technological monster, a veritable HP4 of the off-road world.
Now that the engine manufacturers have gone into overdrive, it's time to turn to the chassis designers. Let's start by fitting radial brake calipers, preferably Brembo monobloc. ABS is standard, and the front discs retain their 305 mm size, while the rear disc is enlarged from 265 to 276 mm.
Now for the wheels. BMW has decided to increase the contact surface. The front is no longer a 110 on a 19" rim, but a 120. The increase is twice as great for the rear: from 150 to 170, on 17" rims. The rims are also wider, from 2.5" to 3" and from 4" to 4.5" respectively.
As for in-house technologies, the Telelever has been redesigned. Its plunger tubes have been reduced from 41 to 37 mm for identical rigidity. A steering angle of + / - 42° is thus maintained, despite the new peripheral radiators.
As you may have noticed, the gimbal and exhaust have swapped positions. By moving to the right, the muffler won't burn your calf during a manoeuvre on tricky terrain, or your arm when you're lifting the wheel after a bowl. This third-generation Paralever EVO has been further improved in terms of power transmission. It's also longer without compromising rigidity.
To tie it all together, a new reinforced, continuous perimeter tubular steel frame with bolt-on rear frame rests on the load-bearing motor. All these elements should make this evolution of the GS both more stable and easier to handle.
semi-active suspension and steering.
to ensure supremacy both on and off-road, to prove technological mastery, to remain segment leader, a good chassis and a good engine are essential, but are no longer enough. You need chips, sensors, active management and silicon brainpower. No problemo, the R 1200 GS liquid cooled has all this and more. What would homo motardus think?
" I want to ride everywhere!
- Hop on! I've got everything I need," replied Miss GS 2013.
"- I want comfort that adapts, and safety too.
- Just get in.
- I want....
- GET IN, DAMN IT!?!"
Don't tickle the GS too much. When it comes to on-board technology, we're on a par with a Superbike.
The throttle on the R 1200 GS is now ride-by-wire. This not only makes for smoother acceleration, but also allows the addition of cruise control (optional). For the dynamic side of things, the suspension can be equipped with electronics. Unfortunately, all this is optional. A pity, as it's very interesting. Let's take a look:
ASC and control modes. The 1200 GS equipped in this way provides five riding modes, with three throttle response laws, three ABS levels and four ASC traction control settings. Select "Rain", "Road", "Dynamic", "Enduro" or "Enduro Pro", and the system will manage your riding style.
need custom suspension without the headache of tools? The R 1200 GS offers it. Combined with the previous option, the 1200 GS adapts in real time to the terrain according to your riding style. Sensors "read" the road and automatically adapt damping. BMW is thus in direct competition with the Skyhook system on the new Ducati Multistrada. What about all this?
On wet roads and in difficult grip conditions, the driver is supported in "Rain" mode by smooth throttle response and metering, while still having full power at his disposal. ASC responds earlier than in "Road" mode. When the GS is equipped with the Dynamic ESA option, the damping of the front and rear spring/damper combinations is rather soft, conforming to prevailing conditions.
In "Road" mode, the steering aids are set to achieve optimum performance on dry roads. This mode offers a spontaneous, linear response to acceleration, and combines a smooth dosage with even torque delivery.
In "Dynamic" mode, the BMW R 1200 GS becomes sporty on the road. An even more spontaneous and direct response to acceleration, discreet ASC intervention and, with the Dynamic ESA option, even firmer damping bring out the bike's full potential.
In "Enduro" mode, the R 1200 GS is at its best off-road. Smooth acceleration response, discreet ASC Enduro control, optimum brake force distribution and ideal ABS behavior, combined with the optional dynamic ESA suspension setting for optimum traction. This mode is optimized for use with standard tires.
For ambitious enduro riders, BMW offers the"Enduro Pro" mode. This riding mode, characterized by spontaneous engine response, is designed for use with studded tires. when the brake pedal is depressed, the ABS function is deactivated at the rear, while the optional dynamic ESA switches to a damping system that favors traction and optimizes heel-toeing behavior. ASC is designed for professional enduro riding, and allows considerably more wheel slip.
a BM also means a sideways glance. This is still the case, except that the optical unit has been improved. It's lighter, more efficient, and as you'd expect, the main change is only available as an option. The GS can be fitted with a new, much more powerful and efficient LED daytime running light, with a choice of automatic or manual activation. A luminous "U" becomes the GS's new distinctive feature, like the luminous rings on the brand's cars or the K 1600 GT / GTL. A heat-sink system acts as a cooler or, if required, as a demister/defroster.
New bike, new dashboard. Surprising from the outside, its functions and appearance place it halfway between the old instrument cluster and the over-equipped K 1600. No TFT screen, but a trip computer as standard. To get the most out of it, you'll have to (still) go for the optional extras, especially for enduro riders.
aiming for supremacy
the new R 1200 GS takes a huge leap forward, especially with its completely redesigned Boxer. It's ready to face not only competition that has grown considerably in recent years, but also a new chapter in its existence. This change may not be as significant as the creation of the GS, but it promises to be a major turning point, perhaps more serious than the birth of the R 1100 GS. Competitors have been trying to unseat it for years; with this new version, the GS can drive wherever it pleases.
M.B - Manufacturer's photos
Options :
- ASC (Automatic Stability Control) traction control and steering modes.
- RDC tire pressure control.
- Dynamic ESA semi-active suspension.
- Pre-equipment for navigation system.
- DWA anti-theft alarm system.
- Heated grips.
- LED turn indicators under white glass.
- Chrome exhaust system.
- Low seat height (820 mm).
- Lowering kit.
- Cross-spoke wheels.
- LED headlight with daytime running light.
- daytime running lights.
- Pro on-board computer.
- Left/right suitcase holder.
- Hand protectors.
- Cruise control.
Active package :
- ASC traction control and steering modes.
- Cruise control.
- daytime running lights.
Comfort Pack :
- Left/right suitcase holder.
- LED indicators under white glass.
- Hand guards.
- GROUND FLOOR.
Tourism Pack :
- Dynamic ESA.
- Left/right luggage rack.
- Chrome exhaust line.
- Heated grips.
- Pro on-board computer.
- LED indicators under white glass.
- Hand guards.
- Pre-equipped for navigation system.
Dynamism Pack:
- Dynamic ESA.
- ASC traction control.
- Steering modes.
- Pre-equipped for navigation system.
- LED headlights.
- LED indicators under white glass.
- Pro on-board computer.
Accessories.
For safety.
- Enduro cylinder guards.
- Enduro engine mount.
- Oil tank safety cap.
- DWA anti-theft alarm system.
- Headlight protector (off-road only).
- Hand protectors.
For transport.
- Vario suitcase left/right.
- Vario topcase.
- Support for topcase on luggage rack.
- Luggage rack to replace passenger seat.
- Inner bag for Vario suitcase.
- Inner bag for Vario topcase.
- Backrest for Vario topcase.
- Support for Vario case.
- Tank bag, large, waterproof.
- Tank bag, small, waterproof.
For the look.
- LED turn signals under white glass.
- Additional LED headlight.
For sound.
- Akrapovic sport muffler
For ergonomics and comfort.
- Rallye saddle with luggage rack (890 mm, non-adjustable).
- Rider seat (850/870 mm).
- Low rider seat (830/850 mm).
- High rider seat (870/890 mm).
- Adjustable brake lever.
- Rider footrest with flexible, adjustable inner plate.
- Wide footrest.
- Tinted windscreen.
- Heated handles.
For navigation and communication.
- BMW Motorrad Navigator IV.
- Function bag for Navigator.
For maintenance and technology.
- Additional socket.
- LED lamp for power socket.
- On-board tools with maintenance set.
- Workshop stand.
- Battery charger.
- Set of barrels.
All options ... good to ride and ride ..without worries!!!!
Commode control panel changed, ditto heated grips, seat front and rear (material worn quickly) and bubble mechanism changed too!!!
And the top at 95000 km valve spring broken on right cylinder 2 valves twisted valve guide changed and the last straw the adjustment Pasté fell into the engine impossible to recover and forced to remove engine from the chassis to retrieve the pastille....
No support from Bmw nor on the. Pieces !!!
C.est sur la majorité des bikers pas des motards 6 a7000/an ces sois disant motard .... moto très fiable !!!
Tte mes motos ont dépassé et vendu avec 130000 et plus sans soucis ( Honda !!!)mon 1600 gtl vendu à 50000 avants soucis.
The old Gs oil cooled cashed the km ... without worries
Disappointing BMW quality clearly down at all levels !!!
At 23000â'¬ we could wish for more!!!
So I will not talk about pseudo bikers who buy leasing and do not ride ...... Rating : 1/5 Respond to alan
Any ideas?
Thanks Rating : 3/5 Respond to dave
Noisy bike
Insufficient hand protection
Needle speedometer a digital display would be more topical
Single turn signal indicator: you can't tell whether the left or right one is working
Difficult to get onto center stand
Wind noise between 80 and 100 km/h
I live in Florida, and the heat on my legs is unbearable
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For those of you looking for inner panniers for aluminum suitcases, check out Ebay.UK.There are a couple of pairs (right and left) by an English manufacturer for ... 70 euros , shipping included @ Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
Forgive my French, I've been living in Australia since 94 Rating : 4/5 Participate in the conversation
Hi, were you able to locate the aerodynamic noise on your GS? Mine has the same noise ..
Thanks in advance for your reply
Jef Rating : 4/5 Participate in the conversation
recent owner of a GS LC 2015 after having had a GS 2004, a 2008, and a GS ADV 2010, without ever being disappointed, I thought I had bought the pearl of the trail....
alas, I'm in the process of being disappointed...a noise that I think is aerodynamic occurs between 90 and 105 kms/h.it's very unpleasant..
i first attributed the noise to the Michelin Anakee 3 tires, then I changed them for Metzeler tires...ditto
Has anyone had this problem?
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Having a 2015 d'aventure LC I also have a very unpleasant noise between 3,500 rpm and 4000 rpm I'm told possibly the clutch release bearing or the clutch bell
Thank you for your comments Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
And I'm not talking about the battery problems. Permanent booster in my panniers Rating : 3/5 Participate in the conversation
I also have this ratchet noise in the engine, it seems to come from the right cylinder side, irregularly and only when the engine is hot. This noise appeared at 1000 kms and is exactly what you hear on the youtube video. My dealer tells me that it's quite frequent but not systematic, that the noise is that of decompression valves and that if you increase the throttle slightly at idle, it disappears. There's nothing to be done, but supposedly there's no mechanical risk! It's very unpleasant and above all abnormal for bikes at this price. Rating : 4/5 Respond to Laurent
My only complaint so far is that the Shifter pro has become less precise and more random since the 1000Km overhaul
Do others have this problem, or has it improved for Michel? Rating : 4/5 Respond to Axcelia
Concerning the noises related to several reasons regarding the 2015 model, have you noticed similar problems?
Have a nice trip
Milo Rating : 3/5 Participate in the conversation
... but he didn't tell me that the bike was equipped with a shifter pro! ( bof, bof)
knowing this now, I've just had it adjusted. It shifts very well from 4 to 5 and 5 to 6. But I can't get the hang of it from 2 to 3 and 3 to 4. It jerks, it refuses ... is the adjustment wrong?
i'd like your opinion, because it's a good shifter
.... otherwise, I'm trying to find a better model than this 1200 GS; I can't find it!
enjoy
PS: to Stéphane; Did you buy this 1200 GS? Rating : 4/5 Respond to michel
Happy priority d\'un 1200 GSlc de 2013 avec 14000km, je le suis moins depuis 1 mois suite à une panne moteur.
The dealer let me wait 5 weeks before announcing that the clutch bell had broken, causing definite damage.
BMW France will cover 100% of the engine replacement costs (phew!) but when, I have no idea!
In conclusion, I have mixed feelings about BM reliability and am completely dissatisfied with the service provided by the BM network (this is nothing new).
After 3 GSs in 7 years, I'm strongly considering switching to a KTM Super Adventure 1290. Rating : 2/5 Respond to Etienne
As I explained in a previous post, this machine is annoying because of the few faults I mentioned. But it's probably annoying because the rest is almost perfect, and we'd like it to be. Unfortunately, perfection doesn't exist down here.
This message is intended to encourage those who, like me, would - and could - make the leap to purchase.
The 1200 GS is still a great machine, from the moment you switch on the engine to the moment you switch off and stand up. I've had Yamaha, Kawa, Honda and Triumph, and while they've all given me pleasure, none has given me as much.
I think that explains why so many GSs are on the road today...despite the criticisms that can be levelled at them. Rating : 4/5 Respond to Cantoussel
Bonne route Rating : 4/5 Respond to escape
I am strongly considering the purchase of a 2015 R1200GS
A first test makes me hear two types of noises
Clattering and perpetual rubbing. I must admit I was a little disappointed... A test ride of the old 2012 version had left me dazzled mainly by its silence
For the 2015, I have huge questions
Are these normal noises? Is there a risk of regret after purchase?
I really want to buy it because its lines are superb and from a driving point of view it's the best..
So I ask for your point of view but please let it be as objective as possible
Thank you and happy 2016 on the roads. Rating : 3/5 Respond to Jlocsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBMGc-ZDNV0
If anyone has any ideas... Rating : 4/5 Participate in the conversation
And for the 1st, it was the mechanic who told me about the cardan shaft... well done to them :-(
It's worrying... Rating : 4/5 Participate in the conversation
I own a 1200 GS adventure, LC 2014. I have met several owners of 1200 GS year 2014, they have these same noises and they also complain about it, hot engine and idle, like a noise of friction or rather a propeller turning around an axis that has play. I've been to two BMW dealerships, and they couldn't find anything wrong with it, claiming that it was the rear tire that was at fault, but that's beside the point. It's just that BMW hasn't solved this problem. I had no noise on my Varadero. Apart from that, it's an excellent machine, only this noise spoils it Rating : 4/5 Participate in the conversation
Currently I have a f700gs for 2 years and a half, including 3 years of license and I drive summer and winter. I would gladly accept your opinions Soon! have a good trip. Rating : 4/5 Respond to stephane
for me, the 700 was too small in every way; power, braking, road behaviour around 110km/h, handling in the wind (I live in Avignon), look!
i'm satisfied; it's got everything
i was a bit worried about the weight and wheelbase; I'm starting to get the hang of it (it's not the same as the 700, which was really easy)
i'm careful, because there's real power and you have to experiment.
i've taken an over-tired chassis ( 1.74 toout mouillé) and I'm at ease when stopping
everything's great, the noises bof bof (let's admit that...) but not annoying, the only drawback is that I find the gearbox a bit hard, it clunks when you engage the 1st, and it clunks when you follow (but a little less)
i'm happy with my purchase, and can't think of a better bike than the competition
did you buy this GELANDE STRASSE Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
the comfort on the road is exceptional the power is diabolical for a big trail the only annoying detail is undoubtedly the vibrations during deceleration, all the rest is top bravo bmw Rating : 5/5 Respond to domi63
my wildest dream: to be able to own one.
And I dare to hope that this dream will one day become reality.
BIG RESPECT TO BMW. Rating : 5/5 Respond to la Légende
i was lucky enough to have an RT 2 valves, after an R 4 valves and the fabulous K 1600 that I just sold to buy the new r1200 GS LC BLACK TRIPLE, After a test of 1000 kms I was surprised to be able to touch the feet on the ground (1.73m arms along the body )I am not tall .
The handling on the road, the comfort and the new engine made me change my bike
bonne route a tous et merci à mon concessionnaire pour cet essai
sincerely v Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
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For me, the few unflattering noises don't outweigh the advantages.
All in all, I find it perfect. Perhaps too perfect... For everyday leisure use, I get more pleasure from riding my little Royal Enfield, 5 times less powerful and full of flaws, but full of charm!
Whatever you end up riding, I wish you guys a safe trip :-) Rating : 4/5 Respond to MaRcO
jp Rating : 4/5 Respond to jipea
Hello
To jipea:
j\'ai pris ces sacs intérieurs sur le site ci-dessus (type 15 pour ma part) plus sac intérieur GIVI pour le top case et tout le monde est content !!! (better designed than those offered by BMW).
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motorcyclists (the real ones...) go the other way Rating : 1/5 Respond to KEKE02
Xavier 53 ans
12 th bmw and the last!
Happy as a clam last Saturday when I picked up my new lc at the dealership
Unhappy as stones after only 800 kms!
As the owner of 2 trx, an Africa twin and a speed triple, I've never had to put up with such engine wear and tear on a bike of this price.
It's simply shameful to let a machine with such a blatant sound defect go into production.
My unconditional love of flats has just died.
How can you put a motorcycle on the market that breaks your ears and your head after 100 kms?
Did the technicians come from royal enfield (although having owned one, the noise was flattering and not unbearable)?
In short, not to be recommended.
Here's to liars who say they don't hear any noise (3rd owner I met in Brittany this week, and I found the same thing)
Bonne route à tous
Xavier
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To reply to JEPP42, what bothers me is that most users have suffered the same inconvenience (according to my mechanic, it's been recurring since 2013) and that, despite this, the comments of journalists (I'm not talking about those of BOXERMAG of course !!!!), remain flattering, or fayots perhaps?
The problem of scrap noise on my bike was considered non-existent by the bmw technician who came to check, but in 20 years of riding, I've never had to complain so much about such a noise level (I'm not talking about the clutch noise that ducati has just swapped with BMW)
VIVE le progrès. BMW is moving forward, but from now on, it'll be without me.
18,000 bucks for a motorcycle that reminds me of my wife's blender, that soaks your feet in 5 minutes in case of rain (checked!!, never happened on my previous 4 GS) and whose bubble is, as lively as it gets, that's just taking the piss.
Too bad, I tried out all the competitors this weekend, but came to only one conclusion: I'd take back an old GS, you know the ones that, in ten years, have had time to be finished off by BMW's development departments.
There's no point in trying to convince me that the noise isn't a nuisance, it only concerns the user, with or without bad faith, and my last 500 km were a nightmare
(earplugs compulsory).
So there you have it, in a nutshell!
A nasty feeling of being one of the suckers who make examples of GS sales statistics, but who are not listened to by the relevant departments.
ALLEZ, tomorrow I'll be driving around with my earplugs and a cap under my helmet so as not to hear that wonderful, flawless flat
Bonne route à tous
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I agree with you about the mechanical noises, it's weird at first for BMWists. I have a 2014 model with just over 17,000 kms on the odometer, and the noises have dissipated. It takes about 10,000 kms to stop hearing them. My dealer (German, on the border, but with a Frenchman who sold me the bike) had warned me. So I let the time pass. The noises that bother me today are more due to the original bubble, which I've just replaced with one from GSA. To be tested.
Best regards to you all. Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
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The braking position is better.
I think I'll order it, plus Bmw is taking mine back at a very high price, so I think I'll go for the 2016 triple black Rating : 5/5 Respond to Bmw13
Coming from a 2013 GSA, I wanted something more agile, less heavy at the stop.
I'm really not disappointed!
The noises so often mentioned? Either I don't pay attention to them, or they don't bother me. The Akra noise is nice and that's what I focus on.
I've done 5000km, no worries, nothing but pleasure and always the desire to get it out of the garage.
The schifter and keyless may seem gadgets, but after 3 months of use, I don't even know where my keys are or what the key holder looks like. That's for sure. I should point out that the tank doesn't need a key either.
For those who are afraid of criticism from certain users, hazards affect all brands, but in proportion and given the sales at BM, there are more than at Katoch, which is normal.
On the other hand, if we're talking about trade-ins, there's no question about it, BM will always be popular.
I tried out a 2013 super teneré last week, and was impressed by the heaviness of the front end, which made me feel like I was going back 6 years. I tried out Katoch's SP 1290 before confirming the purchase of my BM and I have to say I was bleuffed. But after further reflection and another test of the GS LC, I chose it 60 to 40%.
Today, I'm confirming my choice at 70 to 30.
Too good this BM.
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the only problem with the shifter is that you have to reprogram it from time to time, ask your dealer what the operation is, it's very easy to do yourself
if not I had a K1600 AND I just took the gs in triple black
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Yours sincerely Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
the k 16 is a great engine, there is torque it is easy to handle for winding roads not as much as the gs, I regretted the reverse and its weight when traveling with luggage and crew I had not far from 600 KGS to move, I did not ask which side to fall just in case.
The gs is a purchase for Greece, Austria and Spain
i hope you've solved your shifter problem
cordially and good luck vv Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
But you have to pay the price
the options are quality and for the exhaust noise an Akranovic muffler costs around 900 â'¬
So a motorcycle at 19kâ'¬....
Beautiful dreams
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- the pansy sound of this new mecha engine (less so on the RT due to the fairing),
- the rather cheap feel of the steering and chassis (like a Dutch bike compared to a good modern mountain bike)
- the tubular steel frame, in this day and age of aluminum-shell frames, is ill-advised and will rust in 5 years
When I get back on my 1150R, I feel like I'm riding a Panzer, so solid and indestructible does it look.
Curious to see these youngsters in 10 years' time... Rating : 3/5 Participate in the conversation
I've been riding motorcycles for 20 years now. At first, just after getting my license, I didn't have a penny to my name, but I was able to buy a used Suzuki 1000. 3 breakdowns for the same reason in 5 months, including one on the freeway.
i finally moved upmarket with BMW and for the last 13 years they've been TOP.
it's true they're expensive, but on resale there are no problems.ðŸ'ðŸ'ðŸ'ðŸ'
for your information, the dealer who took over the Suzuki had to wait 3 years to resell it...
So in conclusion, we need to know what we want. Afterwards, there's always the possibility of negotiating, that's the game.😉😉😉😉
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Torque all the time, l\'ASC to avoid the fall (especially when it's frozen) l\'ABS too of course
I'm just having a bit of trouble getting used to the braking (which was simply excellent on my Honda with the dual CBS)... the pedal digs in as soon as the braking is too hard...
My type of journey 100 km/day: 25% communal 25% departmental 10% national 25% freeway 10% traffic jam 5% urban
For hourly rates, I have a multi-brand dealership that offers rates at 66â'¬ (60â'¬ for Japanese and other Italian models) Rating : 5/5 Respond to frizer
I ride inTunisia, barely 5500km already 02 repatriation to France at BMW at 3200 km futile front brake feed and 3 months later at 5500 km leak feed embryo, jacket and pants oil stained and overmount the cost of repatriation to France, knowing that we do not have BMW MOTORAD in Tunisia
Y'all had the same souct?
Merci Rating : 5/5 Respond to KELIBIA
another envious …. and frustrated. I know a lot of bikers who make a lot of sacrifices on other pleasures in life to be able to ride a GS. Dear yes, quality comes at a price…. why is it that 90% of the world's trails are run by GS bikes? why is it the motorcycle of choice for frequent travelers? simply because it's the best-performing, most comfortable, most reliable big trail bike that lets you venture off to the ends of the earth as a loaded duo.
And given the beast's reliability, there are some magnificent examples available. I'd much rather ride an 1150 adventure 70,000 km fully equipped at 6,000 euros than any other new bike at 12,000 euros, Vstorm style or otherwise. Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
do the difference between the purchase price and the resale price ..... and you'll see... there's no discount... a 2015 is worth 16500... a 2012 is still worth 13500 so you've driven for 3000 e in 3 years ... try to do the same calculation with a japanese...! Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
Super becane
But what do you think of the bmw rental?
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I've got another problem on the bubble, it's starting to crack from the fixing points, is this a problem with many other Geseistes 1200 lc ???? Rating : 5/5 Respond to Casa maroc
Concerning the no stress bubble
I've had the same problem, taken care of by the manufacturer. For the record, this is already the 3rd modification of the fastener since 2013. Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
I bought my 1200 gs 2 months ago and already the battery has failed
So they changed the battery and a week later the battery failed again, and now they're looking for a voltage regulator that's out of order. I've been waiting 2 weeks, and I'm really nervous.
Have a nice evening
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i'd take it without hesitation if the look weren't so, shall we say, austere... Rating : 5/5 Respond to lou
I'm hesitating between a multistrada and a gs, I have a possible option on a stock factory low-profile, but I'm hesitating between a low-profile and a normal.
You've driven both, what do you think? Isn't the lowering kit too penalizing when driving?
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I'm not sure about the lowering because I'm 1m90 tall, so the normal size suits me fine.
The differences with the multi are obvious in the way it handles and holds the road. And you can really go a long way!
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I've had the new 1200 GS for 2 months now and.... it's pure happiness, I'm 53 years old and haven't been on a motorcycle for a long time and at the top of my 1.67 the factory fitted lowering kit allows me to control the beast at 100% ROOOAAAARRRRR in all circumstances Rating : 5/5 Respond to nils
At 1m67 tall, I'm hesitating between keeping the bike as originally designed and riding two-up with a helmet, or fitting the lowering kit... I'm afraid the latter will alter the bike's handling and safety (lower ground clearance and friction when cornering)
Does BMW combine this kit with ESA to avoid these problems? Rating : 5/5 Respond to Nils
I have read your comment concerning the lowering kit, and I would like to know if, beyond the positive aspects mentioned, this kit generates any negative impacts, and if so, which ones?
thank you for your feedback. Rating : 5/5 Participate in the conversation
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Finally, it would be a good idea to adapt the principle of the Pantone engine (water vapour suction) to this excellent flat twin, which would give it performance in terms of low-speed torque, fuel efficiency and pollution levels that would bear no comparison with the engine on display. An idea to pass on to the 1Gs in Stuttgart. Rating : 4/5 Respond to fan2bm
I find it admirable that BM should dare to change so many technical aspects of its famous flat twin, just as much as I find it scandalous to have retained an air-cooled engine when all the competition has adopted the fleet for 20 years.
BMW gave the press a 51-page press kit; few manufacturers do as much. That's why some press kits are more detailed than others. Rating : 5/5 Respond to Greg Rattin
The editors try to be as impartial as possible, so we're sorry we can't provide you with as much in the other pages, but that's beyond our control. Rating : 5/5 Respond to Yffic Narbonne
Our prose sometimes mentions expressions specific to our team - a small m.a.j. has been carried out for clarification. Rating : 3/5 Respond to Greg Rattin
you'll have to explain: I don't understand this sentence at all. Rating : 3/5 Respond to pima
Rating : 3/5 Respond to Rickiboy
I have to buy a super-ténéré next summer, but now I'll put it on my list of choices.
I have a BM R1200 RT that I love. With all its innovations, it's once again an interesting choice
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