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Comparison Yamaha XJR 1300 2015 vs Yamaha 800 FZ8 2015 - The old lioness doesn't give up so easily

The old lioness doesn't give up so easily

now that the sun is no longer shining too brightly, I've decided to share with you one of the tests I carried out this summer with Oli the Belgian.
An essay, no, a comparison of impressions gleaned by Oli and me. An editorial written by four hands...

i receive an e-mail: "Okay Speedy, the Yamaha FZ8 is yours for a week, I'll take the XJR 1300, just to see if these 4-legged roadsters are still relevant."

appointment made for me with Team Oli le Belge for a week of fun.
Thursday morning. On the way to Yamaha Belgium's new address, Oli is waiting for me to pick up the two bikes.

first impression: I like the look of the FZ8, a massive roadster that nonetheless retains its clean lines.
The icing on the cake is the akrapovic muffler!
Right next door sits the "new-old" XJR 1300. In matte gray, it somewhat overshadows the more consensual-looking FZ8, though the Race blue version suits it perfectly. I have to say that this gray program and blue elements are the most successful for the FZ and MT ranges.

i hop on the FZ, Oli on the XJR and off we go, heading for the beautiful roads of southern Belgium.
Oli leads the way with his bike. It's really beautiful... Despite her "old school" look, she's a real eye-catcher. I feel transparent on my FZ. I also have the feeling that I'm always having to whip out the 4-legs to keep up with Oli.
Yet the 780 cc delivers 8 hp more than the 1250.
But let's not be mean, from 5,000 to 10,000 rpm, the in-line four has exceptional acceleration, and when the needle points to the red line, you'd better hang on!
But this hole in acceleration really penalized me during slow passages and low revs.

after a little investigation, I discovered that it was possible to add a miracle box to regain all the torque for Euro 3 homologation reasons. It seems that this device completely transforms the bike.

despite the many years of difference in the design of these bikes, they both give a lot of pleasure on small roads. Let's just say that the grip on the handlebars is very different. The 20-year difference is obvious from the dashboard alone. Once you've settled "into" the XJR, the old-fashioned features, including two large, round, chrome-plated meters, take you back to the world of the '50s. A clearly visible red zone at 9500 rpm is a value you're unlikely to use very often, as the joy of the big 4-cylinder is never to go beyond 5 or 6000 rpm.

riding the 8, the world is very different. You're sitting on the bike, really in control. The Deltabox aluminum chassis handles with precision and remains extremely stable. What's more, thanks to the new front and rear suspensions, the settings are ideal.
The ground clearance of 140 mm remains a hair too short for me. And for good reason, the footrests touch quite easily, but that's fun!
One very positive point is the braking, with a 310 mm double disc at the front and a 267 mm disc at the rear,
I did some heavy braking on various roads, including some with bad surfaces, in a zoning area and in a parking lot!
The braking performance of this four-wheeler is simply impeccable.
In terms of fuel consumption, with half sporty, half reasonable driving, the FZ8 consumes +- 6 litres/100km.

verdict. The FZ8 is still a very good roadster, both for muscular driving and for daily commuting in the urban jungle. But its €8,999 price tag with ABS puts it at a disadvantage against competitors such as the Kawazaki Z 800 ABS, the KTM 690 Duke or even the 690 Duke R version for a thousand euros more!
The XJR was the surprise of this comparison. Oli had planned to pit the FZ8 against the GSR 750 FREEGUN, but unfortunately the latter had been destroyed by a colleague a few days earlier. So he took the XJR as a spare. In the end, the XJR was far from lagging behind, and the rascal still has a lot left in the tank...

Something to think about!
Speedy and Oli

Motorcycle Yamaha XJR 1300 2015 Motorcycle Yamaha 800 FZ8 2015
Yamaha XJR 1300 2015 Yamaha 800 FZ8 2015

Chassis

Nombre de places
Frame
Double berceau en acier type Diamant en alu
Fuel capacity
14.50 liters (3.83 US gallons) 17 liters (4.49 US gallons)
Oil capacity
Seat height
Seat height : 829 mm (32.64 in) Seat height : 815 mm (32.09 in)
Length
Length : 2,190 mm (86.22 in) Length : 2,140 mm (84.25 in)
Width
820 mm (32.28 in) 770 mm (30.31 in)
Height
Min height : 1,120 mm (44.09 in) Min height : 1,065 mm (41.93 in)
Ground clearance
Wheelbase
1,500 mm (59.06 in) 1,460 mm (57.48 in)
Dry weight
Curb mass
Weight when fully loaded
240 kg 211 kg
Brake assist
ABS as standard

Front axle

Suspension
Telescopic fork, Ø 43 mm Reverse telehydraulic fork Ø 43 mm
Wheel travel
130 mm (5.12 in) 130 mm (5.12 in)
Angle de chasse
Setting
Brake
Braking 2 discs Ø 298 mm (11.73 in), 2-piston caliper Braking 2 discs Ø 310 mm (12.2 in), 4-piston caliper
Wheel
Front tire : 120 / 70 - 17 Front tire : 120 / 70 - 17
Pressure
2.5 bar 2.5 bar
Handlebars

Transmission

Gearbox
5 stage gearbox 6 stage gearbox
Transmission
Secondary by chain Secondary by chain

Rear axle

Suspension
2 Öhlins lateral shock absorbers Mono-damper
Wheel travel
110 mm (4.33 in) 130 mm (5.12 in)
Setting
Brake
Braking 1 disc Ø 267 mm (10.51 in), 2-piston caliper Braking 1 disc Ø 267 mm (10.51 in), 2-piston caliper
Wheel
Rear tire : 180 / 55 - 17 Rear tire : 180 / 55 - 17
Pressure
2.5 bar 2.9 bar

Motor

Motor type
4 cylinders online , 4 strokes 4 cylinders online , 4 strokes
Cooling system
combined air / oil liquid
Fuel system
Injection Injection
Fuel
Starting system
Timing
2 ACT 2 ACT
Number of valves
4 valves per cylinder 4 valves per cylinder
Displacement
1251 cc, Bore x stroke: 79 x 63,8 mm 779 cc, Bore x stroke: 68 x 53.6 mm
Power
96.6 ch to 8,000 rpm 104.5 ch to 10,000 rpm
With compressed air
- -
Compression
9.7:1 12 : 1
Torque
11.10 mkg to 6,000 rpm 8.40 mkg to 8,000 rpm
With compressed air
- -
Émission sonore
- -
Motorcycle can be restricted to 34ch (A MTT1 Permit)
No No
Motorcycle can be restricted to 48ch (French A2 Permit)
No No

Options/Equipment

Standard equipment
Brake assist : ABS as standard

Practical information

The advantages
  • Torquey roadster
  • Preparation aspect
  • Charming machine
  • More generous torque than the FZ6
  • Very distinctive and successful headlight
  • Rigorous chassis
The disadvantages
  • Certain weight
  • No more hushed classiness
  • Design sans surprise
  • Assessment of the exhaust
Performance
  • Max speed : approximately 220 km/h (136.70 mph)
  • Max speed : approximately 230 km/h (142.90 mph)
Price
Basic version
FranceFrance
10,999€
Basic version
FranceFrance
8,999€
Country of manufacture

Compare

Torque

Yamaha XJR 1300 2015 : 11.1 mkg
Yamaha 800 FZ8 2015 : 8.4 mkg

Power

Yamaha XJR 1300 2015 : 98 ch (96.60 hp)
Yamaha 800 FZ8 2015 : 106 ch (104.50 hp)

Power-to-Weight ratio

Yamaha XJR 1300 2015 : 2.35 kg/ch *
Yamaha 800 FZ8 2015 : 1.88 kg/ch *

Torque-to-Weight ratio

Yamaha XJR 1300 2015 : 20.45 kg/mkg *
Yamaha 800 FZ8 2015 : 23.35 kg/mkg *

Speed

Yamaha XJR 1300 2015 : approximately 220 km/h (136.70 mph)
Yamaha 800 FZ8 2015 : approximately 230 km/h (142.90 mph)

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